Option to change rollover time, end of day time to after midnight
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Angela Lee
This is a specific request for night-owls, but I frequently work past midnight and would love to be able to set the time for when tasks rollover (e.g., on Tuesday at midnight) to a later time (e.g., every night at 3am). Currently, tasks completed after midnight are marked as completed on the next day (e.g., Wednesday).
Thanks for considering this!
Alex Cunningham
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Make the entire app more Night Shift friendly
Janzent Vapor
Some of us work in Night Shift and struggle a bit when using the app overall.
Perhaps it would be more efficient for the team to plan the UI and features around this possibility as well.
Ren Yu
Is there any update on this?
Alex Cunningham
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End of day & daily shutdown
Sara Robinson
I don't shut down, I change focus. I also don't stop at midnight. I would really like to be able to change the end of the working day to be 3am, or whenever I need it to be, and for tasks not to automatically roll over to the next day unless I want them to.
Tim Abell
this is really quite annoying, regardless of how hard it is or isn't to build, it is particularly problematic when it comes to daily shutdown and planning as you end up shutting down tomorrow instead of today
I suggest leaving it open for consideration even if it's a long way down your cost/benefit list
Alex Cunningham
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Custom 24 hour day start/end times
Jim Leeds
I typically wake up in the afternoon and finish my day in the early AM (e.g. 5AM). Having to move tasks that start after 12AM to the next day creates some friction and I wish that I could adjust the 24-hour start/end times such that all tasks for a given "awake" period fall within the same day
Alex Cunningham
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Working into the next day
Roy Mariathas
When I work into the next day ie. post 12am the daily shutdown does not recognise that I'm finishing the session from the previous day. Be great to see this recognised.
Alex Cunningham
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Unfortunately, we're fairly set on using midnight as the end of the day. Trying to keep an "artificial" version of the end of the day on a per-user basis is the kind of software design decision that could cost us months to build and also cause all sorts of hard to understand and fix bugs with timezones and such. That being said, we'll likely never add this kind of feature to Sunsama.
Sara Kasprowicz
The owls are sad, but we understand, thanks!
Daniel Natoli
Alex Cunningham: That’s a shame, this is a pretty-big deal-breaker for those of us who work irregular hours (or work with international teams) and rely on activity scheduling after midnight… As Sierra mentioned below, what’s the point of an organisational app that doesn’t reflect the times/dates that a task is supposed to be actioned?
Vincent Bong
Daniel Natoli: I agree with Daniel here. As someone who is already well utilizing Sunsama, I don't add a timeslot for tasks that might move past 12 midnight to avoid the rollover issue complication.
Keep up the great work. Loving the updates, especially desktop focus.
Alex Cunningham
Daniel Natoli: It's a fair question. This is an issue/feature I really wish we could support, but we have decided to commit not to do any time soon as we don't have the bandwidth to make building and managing the complexity of this feature. Unfortunately that means disappointing some existing and potential customers.
milieu ...
Alex Cunningham: Thank you for the transparency.
In response to "the kind of software design decision that could cost us months to build and also cause all sorts of hard to understand and fix bugs with timezones and such":
Could the team commit to internally collecting ideas & reviewing on a much longer timeline (say in 3-5 years), possible mitigations to the difficulty of maintaining data integrity when supporting relative-time EODs?
This would effectively be a staunch commitment to improve internal observability practices.
I understand how time management is a Goliath to manage in itself, and this specific product request not only incurs the difficulty of timezone support, but is compounded because it deals with arbitrary relative time that is extremely difficult to maintain, especially for investigating user-reported issues that will inevitably happen.
That being said, I have faith that observability measures can eventually be taken to (1) ensure data integrity, (2) reduce the costs of current issue investigation, and (3) make supporting relative EODs significantly easier.
Lamport clocks exist! Relative time is an issue that has been necessary to tackle to manage clock drift in distributed systems! I am sure there are research insights from that space that could be applied to Sunsama's architectural design in the very long term, provided that business constraints allow such development.
As a software engineer, I would also be interested in seeing a future technical blog post on Sunsama's observability practices journey. I think given the inherent difficulties of managing time, coupled with the additional axes of adding
intention
to time, Sunsama engineering has a unique problem that is very technically interesting, especially when it comes to maintaining data integrity.Ryan Ong
Leaving my upvote and comment here for visibility as well!
Sierra Jones
Very much yes please! My days end at 2-3am, and I am still very particularly about organization, so it feels pretty frustrating that my tasks do not accurately reflect to me when I did them.
Alex Cunningham
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An ability to end day after 00:00 for night owls
Mykola Fedurko
Hello. I'm currently struggling with this app not being able to schedule tasks after midnight since I'm ending my day at 2am. I believe that to be rather simple and quick change, but crucial for 30% share of humanity being night owls as me.
Please, I need that as soon as possible. Literally can't use the app without that feature.
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